May 06, 2008

June Meeting

The Next Orange County Atheists meeting will take place Wednesday, June 11 at 7:30PM at the International House of Pancakes at 18542 MacArthur Blvd in Irvine, near John Wayne Airport. Those interested will also meet for a less formal gathering at 6:00PM at the El Torito across from the IHOP before coming to the 7:30PM meeting.

A map to the IHOP is available here. We'll be meeting in the upstairs meeting room. Please RSVP at this page to let us know you're coming one or both events!

Posted by mikebdoss at May 6, 2008 10:46 PM
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We had a great conversation at our end of the room this past meeting. I wanted to post links to some of the things we talked about:

Sleep Paralysis is a plausible explanation for alien abduction and spirit visitation experiences. (see also Hypnopompic and Hypnagogia)

Recommended YouTube channels:

Thunderf00t - Why Do People Laugh At Creationists series.

Potholer54 - Made Easy series.

AronRa - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism series.

John Armstrong - Skeptic Bible Study series.

James Randi - Also check out James Randi's website: James Randi Educational Foundation.

Bad Astronomer - Phil Plait who runs the Bad Astronomy blog.

Michael Shermer from the Skeptic Society.

Also be sure to visit PZ Myers' blog: Pharyngula

Finally, for a good laugh see Christians Against Star Wars

Posted by: Alan at May 12, 2008 09:11 AM

I'm a first timer and would like to attend both events. I know you guy's meet upstairs at IHOP. But I don't know who to ask for at El Torito.

Posted by: Connie Velazquez at May 13, 2008 05:41 PM

I will be there, although many of us UCI students will not (finals and the like).

Posted by: Heina at May 14, 2008 12:32 PM

Thursday, May 29, 2008
Stanton council ousts mayor, apparently over prayer flap
David Cadena loses mayorship in 4-1 vote but remains on the City Council.
By SONYA SMITH
The Orange County Register

StantonThe City Council this week ousted Mayor David Cadena.

Cadena said it was because of his attempt to discuss enacting a prayer before meetings. Al Ethans, who had been the mayor pro-tem, took his place.

Cadena was the only dissenter in the 4-1 vote to oust him – an item placed on the agenda at the request of Councilman David Shawver, according to city documents.

"Why does David Shawver think he runs the city of Stanton?" said Cadena, who remains on the council and is up for re-election this year along with Ethans. "Is it time for a change? I think so. Is that why the good Lord is toughening me up? Maybe."

The council picks a mayor from the council members each December.

Cadena attributes his fall from the mayor's position to a long series of policy disagreements with Shawver that peaked when Cadena on May 13 suggested adding an invocation to council meetings.

According to city documents, Cadena's proposal was met with silence.

Cadena said that other council members called him before the May 13 meeting and urged Cadena to remove his prayer item from the agenda, because it was too controversial.

No comments were offered by any other council members during the May 13 meeting, Cadena said.

"I looked at them," Cadena said. "Silence. They would not look at me. Silence. It was disgusting."

Councilman Shawver declined to comment for this story. Council members Brian Donahue and Ed Royce could not be reached for comment.

Ethans said the decision to remove Cadena as mayor was an "overwhelming situation. …

"It was unfortunate, we're sorry it happened and he's going to stay on the council, and I respect that," Ethans said.

He said that he, for one, voted to oust Cadena as mayor because of the suggestion of adding prayers to council meetings was controversial.

"The mayorship has changed, that's going to stay," Ethans said. "Personality-wise, I think this can be ironed out."

Register reporter Adam Townsend contributed to this report.


Contact the writer: 714-704-3793 or sosmith@ocregister.com

Posted by: Benjamin W. at May 30, 2008 08:36 AM

My apologies for a double post. Please spare me the vituperation. Benjamin.

Posted by: Benjamin W. at May 30, 2008 08:40 AM

I'll be there for both.

Posted by: Phil Hardy at June 6, 2008 04:20 PM

I'll be there for both. For those coming to El Torito, we should be the group in the far back. If you go in, go left, you'll see the bar on the right. Go to the bar, then go right again, there's a big room there which I believe is reserved for us. I'll be there by 6, and I should be wearing an atheist shirt.

Travis

Posted by: Travis at June 9, 2008 10:40 AM

Will definitely be there for the main, might not have time for El Torito but will try.

Alan: thanks for putting up thunderf00t--I always forget!

Posted by: LCforevah at June 9, 2008 02:40 PM

I will attend both. Last month was my first time attending (I've recently moved to OC)and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Thank you to Travis for El Torito navigation and volunteering to be a human beacon.

I'm eager to get more involved. Has the group considered setting up committees to focus on specific areas, eg political action, education, community volunteering, etc? This would help spread out the workload and give folks opportunity to meet at other times besides only once per month.

See you Wednesday.

Posted by: Bill Z at June 10, 2008 11:38 AM

Bill, glad you're enjoying the meetings!

OC Atheists is happy to be a support/outreach structure for anyone wishing to pursue other events/activities. We've twice worked with a charity in south Orange County, and gathered at the Villa Park city council when they were considering "In God We Trust".

I offer the group to anyone who'd like to plan any sort of furthering of our activities, however, as soon as I tell them that they'll have to do the work for whatever it is they're interested in, usually people become less enthused =)

Posted by: Michael Doss at June 10, 2008 11:45 AM

I should be at both gatherings.

Posted by: Jeff P at June 10, 2008 08:32 PM

I'll be there around 9pm.

Posted by: Gary at June 10, 2008 09:17 PM

Anthony Marsh and I will be at both events!

Posted by: Willa at June 10, 2008 11:13 PM

I'll be there for both.

Posted by: Spencer Fern at June 10, 2008 11:21 PM

The IHOP is a formal gathering? o_O

I will be there. I will bring my bible and try to save you all from the Lord's judgment.

Praise Jesus!

Posted by: Kevin at June 10, 2008 11:47 PM

Thomas and I haven't been able to make it to the past few meetings, but we'll be at the IHOP tonight!

Posted by: Em at June 11, 2008 08:07 AM

Hey Scott,

Here are some links to the lawsuit we were discussing, including a clip from the O'Reilly Factor!

Hans
surf1hans@gmail.com

Links:
Lawsuit alleging anti-Christian remarks by teacher to move forward
http://www.ocregister.com/news/lawsuit-corbett-case-1996882-attorney-court

Bill O'Reilly Jesus Glasses Lawsuit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xdRGo5rAm54&watch_response

Posted by: Hans at June 12, 2008 07:57 AM